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Using a Limited Palette---part 2

Although I use a limited palette for my paintings, I always start out by mixing puddles of several colors before I start the actual painting. Doing this accomplishes two things: it helps me to slow down and analyze the color before I dive headlong into painting, and it allows me to have an expanded choice of colors when I begin to paint.  I always mix the secondary colors (orange, green, and violet) regardless of what I'm painting, and the rest of the puddles of color are close approximations to what I'm seeing in the subject matter. Pre-mixing takes some time at the beginning of the painting, but it really saves time once I start to paint: I already have so many colors figured out and can concentrate on the subtle shifts in temperature and value that I'm seeing. Also, I don't break the rhythm of painting to drop my brush, get out my palette knife and mix new color.

Here's a shot of my palette before I start a painting:

 

And here's the finished painting from that palette: The Italian Store 12x12:

Here's a list of the paints I use:

Titanium White (Gamblin) or if you need a faster drying time, use Gamblin Quick Dry White

Cadmium Yellow Lemon (Gamblin) or Cadmium Yellow Light (Rembrandt)

Permanent Red Medium (Rembrandt)

Ultramarine Blue Deep (Rembrandt)

Naples Yellow Deep (Rembrandt)

Cold Gray (Rembrandt)

(Please note that the brands of the paints are very important as colors vary widely between manufacturers)

More information on color mixing and demos using this palette are available on my "Capturing the Light" instructional video. Click here for more info.

6/27/2011 1:29:17 PM

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48 Responses to Using a Limited Palette---part 2

This i such a helpful tip! I always struggle outside for many reasons, but one is certainly getting frustrated while trying to quickly mix colors as I am painting. Thank you

Excellent advice. I now see why I've admired your handling of values so well.

Yes, I agree. Since your workshop that I took a couple of years ago I have used your pallette minus the dark grey and naples yellow and pre mix, it makes it easier for me.

Hi Kathleen,

I've seen your work at the Knowlton Gallery in Lodi whenever I visit my son and his wife. Beautiful! I'm going to try this palette next time I'm out. I've found that I have a need to be outside also or I just get a bit crazy. And now, after reading your post about your dogs, I'm taking my black lab, Riley along. On a big leash. You're an inspiration to me for plein air painting no matter the weather.

Hi Kathleen,

As promised I used your limited palette the last time I went out, which was Saturday. (I didn't take Riley, but I did take my husband). I'm in love with it! Everything was easier from values to cool and warms colors next to each other . . . great in every way. Thank you for sharing this.

Hi Kathleen,

As promised I used your limited palette the last time I went out, which was Saturday. (I didn't take Riley, but I did take my husband). I'm in love with it! Everything was easier from values to cool and warms colors next to each other . . . great in every way. Thank you for sharing this.

Kathleen: There may be somewhere in your Blog where you say what color you use when at the initial stage of laying down your composition-presumably with a brush(?). I have traditionally used alizarin crimson (from former class teachers preference). Right now, I am trying to adhere to your six color palette.

I guess I should go the extra mile and add some of your art books to my swollen shelves.

Wish Indiana was not so far away-would love to take one of your workshops. I was most impressed with your recent radio talk. You speak with such modesty and truthfulness. It is refreshing. Your work is a feast for all eyes.

Myles Murphy

Kathleen you are such an inspiration. Since you do not have a dvd out yet (plse get it going woman!!!! :))) ) - what are the titles of the books you have written so far? Do the books contain demonstrations as well as mixing colour, value and advice etc etc for the beginner or not so beginner. I would like to purchase one to start off with, so plse advise which book should I begin with. Just love your gallery and amazing technique. Regards

Thanks for your comments! Myles- I do my drawing with Permanent Red medium, but it really doesn't matter what color you use as long as you keep the paint thin enough that it won't mix in with your subsequent layers of paint.
Rubs- I'm working on a DVD to be released (hopefully!!) early in 2014. I'll announce the release in a newsletter. My books offered on my website are show catalogs, no demos or painting info included in them. The best how-to book for the beginner plein air artist is Kevin MacPherson's "Fill Your Paintings with Light and Color." Everyone should own a copy of that one!

Thank you Kathleen - I will look it up - Maybe one day I will have the privilege of meeting you and who knows, maybe even paint along with you - Awesome!!

Hi kathleen. I am reza from iran. Your paintings are very beautifull.very nice colors

It appears you are using a Naples yellow that is not the Naples yellow deep from your previous limited palette post. What is the color between your white and cool grey?

Erica-
That's still Naples Yellow Deep.

Hi Kathleen. I'm a great admirer of your work. I'm excited to try out your pallette and I'm wondering how you get your darkest darks. I can't seem to get a deep dark with the colors you use. Thanks so much, Kevin

HI Kevin-
Good question! Colors vary a lot between brands of paint, so it's important to get an Ultramarine Blue Deep that is transparent and dark enough. I use Rembrandt for that pigment. Ultramarine mixed with permanent Red Deep (also Rembrandt) will give you a very dark color. Keep your brushes clean to make sure you don't contaminate the mixture: even a tiny bit of stray color in that mix will lighten its value. Remember that there is no pure black in nature, so use your darkest dark sparingly.

Thanks very much Kathleen. Very good information. I think maybe I paint in a relatively dark key but I'll try lightening that up and also try the Rembrandt ultra blue. Wish I lived close enough to come to one of your workshops. In the meantime, I'm going to try working some more with your pallette to get that wonderful sunlight/shadow warm/cool that you're so good at. Kevin



Hi Kathleen,

Greetings from Malta! Having just read your article and seeing the brand names that you have mentioned, what brand of Cad Yellow Light other than Utrecht would you use?

We cannot get Utrecht here in Malta, and seeing that the pigment used by Utrecht is PY37, would any other Cad Yellow Light using PY37 be OK?

Regards

Anthony Vella

HI Anthony-
Thanks for the message from Malta! I also use Gamblin , but it's Cad lemon yellow, not cad yellow light. There's a slight difference that between the two that becomes a big difference when you're using such a limited palette. Hope you can find it!

Hello Kathleen, I very much enjoy your work! After reading this particular subject in your blog, I sorted through my many tubes of liquetex acrylics to find 5 that closely matched the colors you say you've used for some time. I then proceeded to attempt mixing to match a potted houseplant I recently used in a still life. The colors and values I was able to achieve by mixing were entirely different that what I had used in my painting! I did not believe I could mix such a natural looking green! I am fairly new at Plein air, so I cannot wait to take these 5 tubes outdoors!!

Hi Kathleen, I am going to give this limited palette a try. Presently, I am concentrating on 'massing' my shapes in my paintings, but I think a limited palette will also unify my paintings much more. Thanks so much!

Lucy Yanagida
Superior, CO

Hi Kathleen

I've tried using Ultramarine Blue in limited palettes, but find I can't get the right blue for the sky and ocean. I've found Cobalt Blue works better. I'm in Australia. Not sure if we have a different sky and ocean on the underside of the Earth?

Mark

Hi Mark-
There are certain local colors that you just can't get when using any limited palette, but you can always get the right value and the right temperature, and with that, the painting will read correctly, I haven't been to Australia, but I doubt that you have a different sky down there! ;)

hi kathleen I'm very eager to try your limited palette based on the beauty of your paintings!! my question on part 2...on your palette showing your mixes....is the 'orange' a product of mixing the red and lemon? It's so bright and so nice. Thank you Frances in NM

I tried your palette, but what is the purpose of the Naples yellow? If you are mixing, orange, etc, already, why not just mix the naples yellow color from the other colors. Is it because you use it so much, and don't want to mix it? I can see why the gray might be useful. Can you explain?

Also - it is quite impossible to make the color of a Colorado sky with that palette. That might be something I would not be willing to give up.

Hello,
I have been working with limmited pallet and I came to the conclussion that many of the colours that I think
i see are zctually not there. they are just a slight nuance of a larger spot of colour. And in relation to that colour they seem to me to be this or that colour. It confused me. I feel like I don t really understand colour. could you comment on that. maybe I am not clear. English is not my mother language. thanks

Good day Kathleen. You said you mix secondary colors irespective of what you are going to paint. Then I wonder why not buy the seconary colors in tube as well ?
Reza

Good day Kathleen. You said you mix secondary colors irespective of what you are going to paint. Then I wonder why not buy the seconary colors in tube as well ?
Reza

Hi Reza-
You could, of course, buy tubes of secondary colors, but I don't for two reasons: I don't want to carry around extra weight when I'm painting outside, and most importantly, when you mix secondaries from the primary colors that are on your palette, you get a color harmony that might not happen if you buy tube paints. To me, it just makes things easier to have fewer tube paints to fool with, but there's no right or wrong answer for which paints to have on your palette: whatever makes a good painting for you is the right choice!

I can't tell you how much I love your work! Thank you for sharing you limited pallet. I plan on trying it. Do you have a favorite medium or medium mixture? A favorite solvent? A favorite gesso? Thank you so much,

Sharon

Hi Sharon-
Thanks for your question--I don't use mediums, just paint thinned with a little Gamsol (which is my favorite solvent). I buy my canvases pre-primed, so I don't have a whole lot of experience with different Gessos. Hope that helps!

I love your artwork, Kathleen! The color mixing you are performing is perfect. Are you using color wheel-color schemes for your different styles (Landscapes, Animals, etc.) of paintings? Do you have a favorite color scheme to use for landscapes? Thank you for your wonderful blog posts! We appreciate them.

Hello, I paint in acrylics and wondered if you could provide me with a palette similar to your for acrylics. I really love your work!

Hi Robert- Thanks for your nice comment! I don't think of color schemes when I paint...I just try to capture what I'm seeing in nature and transpose it as faithfully as I can. If I see naturally-occurring compliments or analogous colors, I'll be sure to include that in my painting, but I never make up or "push" color when I'm painting, especially when I'm out on location.
Hope that helps!

Hi Cindy-
Sorry, but I've never painted in acrylic and can't help you with choosing a comparable palette in that medium. Best best would be to just play around until you find a combination that works for you.

Love your palette..il trying the riffle painting..home to fond my colors from seconder fixing.. thanks for sharing..algiers

Hi Kathleen
Have always loved your paintings and have followed you for several years now. Quick question on supports.
Do you use stretched canvas or do you prefer canvas boards? You mentioned you get your canvas's pre primed. Can you recommend or do you know of a good canvas board or stretched canvas that does not need to be gessoed but still has a smooth feel?

Hi Janet-
Thanks for your nice comment--I use both stretched canvas or linen and linen boards--I prefer the boards but it gets pretty cost-prohibitive as size goes up. There are so many different options out there and a lot just depends on what surface feels good to you when you paint. I don't like a really slick surface, but I don't like heavily textured grounds, either. I use AC14 from Wind River Arts for boards, and either Senso stretched linen (it's primed with clear gesso so it's that beautiful raw linen color), Centurion stretched linen (although the priming varies greatly each time I order), or whatever's on sale! I'm always looking for something good that doesn't break the bank. The search continues...
Kathleen

Thanks Kathleen, for the info. I want to make it as simple as possible not to have to do extra steps before painting. For me if I don't have to go do the extra step to gesso my canvas because they have done it properly I am a happy camper!

Hi Kathleen, love your limited palette, although I am having trouble getting a decent dark with the blue and red. How do you mix a decent dark from this palette. I added a TRO to my palette to help, but really wanted to stick with this limited palette without having to add something else to get a good dark. Thanks for your help!

Lucy









Hi Lucy-
Thanks for your question--the darkest dark you can get with this palette is by mixing Rembrandt Permanent Red Medium with Rembrandt Ultramarine Blue. Brands are important because many Ultramarines aren't dark enough for my use. The combination of those two pigments, when applied opaquely, will give you a very dark value. There really is no absolute black in nature, so I've found that I don't need anything darker than that. Just be sure you haven't contaminated the mix with any other colors or the value will go up and it won't be dark enough- keep your brushes clean!
Hope that helps!

Thanks for replying to Lucy, Kathleen!

Lucy: This YT video may answer some of your questions too since this video covers our issues of getting really dark colors from a limited pallet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfr94p9Jec

Hi Kathleen, love your work. I have ordered the paint to try your method. Love at the idea of an extremely limited palette that works, thus less to carry. I would like to ask how you use the grey. what is its purpose? Also do you have a book with instruction.thank you so much for sharing!

Hi Kathleen, I greatly admire your work. I have begun using your limited palette suggestions for plein air. It's Interesting that the Utrecht Cad Lemon uses PY 37 and Gamblin uses PY 35, probably more in the processing that makes them both cooler than Cad light.
I have some color questions:
1. Rembrandt Permanant red medium uses pigment PR 255 (Pyrrole scarlet). Do find a significant difference between that and the Permanant Red Deep ( PR254 Pyrrole Red) ? Color temperature with PR 255 slightly more yellow/warmer?
2. Rembrandt Naples Yellow Deep is a compound pigment mix with a different primary yellow.
Would you not recommend trying to mix your own Naples yellow using the same pigments that Rembrandt uses? And could you give insight as to when you use the Naples yellow?

Pigment numbers are handy, and certainly have their place. They do NOT give a true comparison of colours. For example most manufacturers use the same PY35 pigment for Cadmium Yellow Lt., Medium, and Dark. Pigment size and density can make a substantial difference in the visual appearance of the actual paint.

Regardless of which paint we use, our paintings are unlikely to look like Kathleen's work, so don't get too strung out over details. We see light differently, and we feel scenes differently. Colour is relative, not absolute. If your relative values are correct, the actual colour is much less important to the viewer.

The value of using Naples Yellow and Cold Gray is convenience. Mixing them yourself is possible, but consistency suffers. When using any colour as part of a limited palette, consistency of value and colour matter.

Over the years I have accumulated far too many acrylic colours. Convenient in the studio perhaps, but I have learned the true potential of few of these colors. My current project is to cull tubes that are seldom used, any with fugitive (less than Lightfast I) pigments, and as many mixtures as possible. Single pigment colours are best for acrylics, especially if one uses any earth colours. My plein air palette will be down to six tubes plus white and a custom chromatic black. The studio will have some optional yellows, reds, and earth colours added to that mix, a far cry from the assortment filling my storage unit.

The final cut will contain colours that will provide me the range of colour that I want to work with and let me get the maximum from every tube I buy. The actual pigments available for paint manufacturers is not evenly distributed around the spectrum; we have to compromise. If you want exact, actual colours, take a photograph instead. The colours will still be inaccurate, but people accept them as correct. I have seen authors suggest less than 20 percent of people see the same colour when looking at any given object. Paint what you see and stop trying to paint what you think you see. Your paintings will actually look much more believable.

Hi Kathleen! I purchased and watched your new dvd and I learnt so much in one hour and 45 minutes! every single thing you say there is so important. I have been mixing and studying colors using the limited palette. I have a question about the yellow. I find Cad lemon from Gamblin is kinda chalky/hard out of the tube. Is there a creamier/easier to mix alternative? Thanks!

Hello Kathleen, [Sorry, this is a "Google" translation] I was lucky to be able to watch your DVD "Capturing the Light". It is really sensational. Your use of the palette limited to the three basic colors + White, Naples Yellow and Cold Gray, seemed very convincing to me and your explanations very clear for the use of dark Naples yellows and cold gray. But the problem for me is the price of colors at Gamblin and Rembrandt, especially since I am going to start with this method and therefore I will have to fumble to get the desired colors. So I found on the site http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Oil/Oil-Paint.html, for each color of different brands, the corresponding RGB and CMYK codings. The three fundamentals you have chosen, seem very pure indeed. I found in study oils, the Van Gogh brand which also has pure fundamentals (light Cadmium yellow, Madder lake light and Ultramarine blue). The Ultramarine blue is very dark, on the other hand the Madder lake light is transparent instead of being semi opaque as with Rembrandt. Isn't it better to take the deep Cadmium red which is opaque? This is the question I ask myself. If you can give me your opinion when you can, thank you. And also thank you again for your DVD. Cordially.

This simplyfies color mixing. There is not rambrandt cold gray in my country. Would you please how can I mix a similar gray? Will a mixer od white and black a little blue work?
Thanks,
Reza


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